Cello and Dee talk about Devcon4 nonsense, how tickets sell out too quick in 'waves' and other technical oddities. In addition, we chat with Alex Bosworth about Submarine Swaps and the Lightening Network. New papers are being published on a method for applying blind signatures to Bitcoin to achieve highly private transactions. Even though LN is getting a ton of coverage, there are many paths for scalable private transactions that can be developed on their own and even benefit from each other. All this and more!